All im trying to do is protect my own rights from a hypocritical Christian based bunch of nutjobs.
and the hypocritical Christian nutjobs are trying to infringe on which of your Constitutionally guaranteed rights again?
slavery was practiced by almost every society until the Christian states of Great Britain and the US exerted great efforts to abolish it in the 19th century. in fact, the primary purpose for which the Republican party was founded was abolition of slavery.
Christian states have also been at the forefront of getting women equal rights and the voting franchise.
you consider these things to be great mysteries.
I guess you are like everyone else. Only your opinion counts and no one elses does.
i suggest that you back your opinion up with facts instead of more opinion and this is your response? did i tell you that you couldn’t speak?
so i’m not permitted to disagree with you, or what?
who is trying to infringe on what Constitutional right here?
keep in mind, “mindlessly obeying Kevo” is not in my copy of the Constitution. strange, that.
Moderators please remove my account from this site.
because you can’t trust yourself not to come back if you don’t have them ‘ban’ you? say what?
better to leave the account inactive, that way the name wouldn’t be available for someone else to hijack.
I hate hypocrites.
can you imagine that? something we agree on.
And there is no circumstance whatsoever when someone of the Muslim faith is encouraged to lie about their faith .
1st, this is a blatant lie born out of complete and willful ignorance of Islam. if you can’t be bothered to google taqiyya, then don’t bother “refuting” me.
2nd, only those who live under Sharia law are in “Dar al Islam” or the “House of Peace” … where Islamic moral strictures are required to be followed. most other geographic areas not under Sharia law are considered “Dar al Harb” or the “House of War”. perhaps you’d like to explain to all of the kind people here what acts are forbidden to Muslims who are engaged in war? trying to find some act that Mohammed himself did not commit ( such as murdering entire cities ) would be a good place to start.
"It has been determined by Islamic law that the blood and property of people of Dar Al-Harb is not protected."
3rd, if you haven’t paid your jizya and you aren’t a Muslim then you aren’t a citizen in good standing to a Muslim
4th, Islam follows the forms of Judaism much more closely then it follows Christianity. to a Muslim the Hadith have nearly as much importance as the Koran itself ( as the Talmud is to the Tanakh ). don’t read the Koran and presume to tell me that you know all there is to know about Islam. you’re throwing away 1500 years of Muslim theology that the Muslim’s themselves consider to be on par with the will of Allah.
suggestion: if you don’t know the terms that i’m using , it would be best not to assume that i’m just making up nonsense. research them before you start spouting off about them.
Do you suppose that maybe the reason McCain does not support the Republican proposal is that it isn’t any good ?
McCain is in favor of the Democrat proposal. ergo, his mind is right. but wait, doesn’t Bush being in favor of the Democrat proposal automagically make it wrong?
question:
can you explain to everyone here what the House Republican proposal consisted of and then show how it differed from the Democrat / Bush / Obama / McCain proposal?
or are you completely ignorant of what the House Republican proposal was?
if you’re completely ignorant of what it was, why are you so willing to trust the people who screwed this all up ( Barney Frank, Franklin Raines, Henry Paulson ) and discarding the opinion of the people ( House Republicans ) who have been saying this was going to blow up for 5+ years now?
Fat cats are almost all Republicans .
more Democrats than Republicans in Congress are millionaires by gross number and by percentage. their fortunes also tend to be larger. Bill Gates is a Democrat and so is Warren Buffett just to name a couple of biggies. don’t forget John “Heinz” Kerry.
shall we get into the demographic voting patterns of those third world areas of the USA like NYC, Chicago and California? Palm Beach county, which way do they vote ( when they can figure out their ballots ) again?
what about the Ivy league schools that edumacate so many of the fatcats children, since when did they become conservative?
hmmmm. i’m sure you’re right but i’m just not finding any facts to back you up.
And i 'm not sure i follow your reasoning about Obama being the willing tool of fat cats .
for the same reason that McCain is a willing tool of the fatcats. or perhaps you think that they voted in opposition to each other on this bill? you’d be wrong. they’ve both been overtly for this thing from the get go.
That would make McCain the willing tool of the fat cats .
i’m pretty sure i said McCain was “a tool” the first time around. glad to hear you agree with me.
And finally , if the constitution says that congress can make no laws concerning religion
that would be cute if the Constitution said that, wouldn’t it?
too bad that’s not what it says:
First Amendment to the United States Constitution in it’s totality:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances”.
the religion clause in the 1st amendment prohibits the “establishment” of an official state church such as the Anglican in England or the Roman Catholic in Italy.
other than that, it forbids all federal ( yes, that may very well be one of the un-enumerated rights of the individual states, see the 10th Amendment ) interference in the free exercise of religion of any citizen.
Kevo is telling us that the very act of being elected somehow contravenes the Constitution and forbids those elected officials who have religious beliefs from acting or governing on them … even though you would expect that they had been elected at least in part because of their beliefs. what principles they are supposed to substitute for the ones they are being forced to cast aside he leaves unstated. also left unstated is why he thinks it’s okay to abridge the democratic will of the people who cast those votes at his whim. they might be wrong but they do have the advantage of numbers.
Kevin makes a point about church.
hypocrites should disgust everyone. and we all know that atheists can’t be hypocrites.