Phill Ellis sr. I allways play fair

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Hey John wasn’t that you swearing at the kids, I seem to remember a video from your track, last year of you dropping a few F bombs at a kid and his uncle, in your 4cyl class, and he now is a PGS regular, so sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, especially since all you got is a rumor, about PGS, yours is on youtube

Phil please post that,and I do have a reply for you later today ,pull down on those seat belts,thanks John.
again play the game fair, and fair will payoff for you, when you don’t, ussually it seems to come back and bite you on the behind

Phil Ellis sr

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My reply Phil

Hey John wasn’t that you swearing at the kids, I seem to remember a video from your track, last year of you dropping a few F bombs at a kid and his uncle, in your 4cyl class, and he now is a PGS regular, so sounds like the pot calling the kettle black, especially since all you got is a rumor, about PGS, yours is on youtube

Phil please post it if you like, you must be talking about Bill Wigger and Zac ,I hate when people bring kids into stuff like this. Phil a lot of people that race here sometimes can not win and BLAMES everyone else but them selves. Zac finally won a race after 2 years so I went out to the winner circle to congratulate Zac for a good job Bill came out with all smiles and I said to Bill we want to see the head and he went crazy mf me officials, announcer, anyone that was there I was breaking his chops just like he did to everyone for 2 years like saying the troyers are changing out their cpu ,he knows they have a an illegal head from another motor,I have a pocket full of money every week and he is going to tear everyone down. I have video?s of this enough is enough.

So they got to teck he didn?t shut up for over an hour mf?s teck the kids, parents any one that would listen to him meanwhile we had no intention to pull it off he didn?t give us time to tell him we were kidding, he wants to throw it out there but when someone does it to him he can?t stand it. Don?t worry in time you will see him do that down there or maybe he is doing that now .

Also why would Zac need a restraining order against a girl he races with. Now that?s a rumor or not I don?t know, people love to run theirs mouth?s all the time but I guess we can ask the dad or maybe he will correct that.

I had a great bunch of kids here in this class,I taught them how to race, I showed them sportsmanship, and how to get along, I know it was hard but you know what ruined it all was the parents trying to drive the car threw their eyes and not letting them develop their own driving skills, and yes I am very proud and I know they have learned a great deal about life and racing with me and they will have a lasting impression about what they have learned with me. So what ever you do in life be the best.

??especially since all you got is a rumor, about PGS, yours is on youtube??I don?t have anything I just saw it posted on another site, and Phil if I did do that I do apologize for it, I hope this clears up some of the BS, as always good luck in your racing and if you every need a track to practice your more than welcome to come, thanks again John.
again play the game fair, and fair will payoff for you, when you don’t, ussually it seems to come back and bite you on the behind

Phil Ellis sr

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what I know of ZAC is he gives a bike away at our track to some lucky kid almost every week .seen all I need to see good luck desoto .

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Thank you John, and I wish you the Best, I don’t think it is right to do that to anyone especially kids, and I don’t like to see bad things written about people based on an internet rumor, not actual facts. thanks for the invite, maybe someday my son and I will come up again to race, understand unlike some people on here, we do not hate you or your facility, but our home track is PGS because we close by, and do to economic reasons, and the fact that some of our best friends are there we call that home. I hope we can put this behind, and just have a great time doing what we all love.

Phil Ellis Sr

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Radio Personality abuse to kids

[QUOTE=philcesr;72264]Thank you John, and I wish you the Best, I don’t think it is right to do that to anyone especially kids, and I don’t like to see bad things written about people based on an internet rumor, not actual facts. thanks for the invite, maybe someday my son and I will come up again to race, understand unlike some people on here, we do not hate you or your facility, but our home track is PGS because we close by, and do to economic reasons, and the fact that some of our best friends are there we call that home. I hope we can put this behind, and just have a great time doing what we all love.

Phil Ellis Sr[/QUOTE]

Please note that I personally overheard the comments made by a prominent radio personality pro truck driver that races at PGS to one of the quality young (minor) drivers from the orlando area, What was said in person at the track and on the radio to a minor aged driver was totally inappropriate and out of bounds. Our race teams experience at Desoto speedway has been nothing but positive and we have been made to feel like we are wanted there as part of a family. Racing is about a family environment for racers and fans alike. I cannot feel the same way about PGS and the officiating that myself and my team mate and other drivers experienced on more than one occasion. Seem unfair to be directing negative comments at Desoto without the truth being stated about PGS.

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Our new home track - Desoto Super Speedway

Our driver raced at PGS for three years. We recently moved to Desoto Super Speedway. The unfair official calls and favoritism became too much. We felt it unwise to support a track that would not support our driver. We never asked for favoritism, only fairness. Our driver is a clean racer. Racing errors will occur in any race but we never intentionally wrecked anyone. We struggled last year with driving clean races because our division had a couple hot heads wrecking others instead of racing. In this economy many race teams are struggling to continue racing. Permitting drivers to take another driver out during the races in not how a race track keeps the head count up for cars every week.
Disrespectable celebrates are not needed in a family atmosphere. The youth of this country get enough bad examples of adult behavior through internet, movies, radio, television and music. I refuse to support a race track that supports negative role models.
As long as Desoto Super Speedway provides a positive experience for our race team, we will be there to support the race track

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negative experience

Celebrities should conduct themselves appropriately on air and in person when dealing with minors. We need more good role models. We are molding the next generation and how they will conduct themselves with others when they’re adults. heartland race team