Wayne wins Rex does not like it

Let me ask you this? After qualifying 3rd and rolling through tech did anyone say anything then? This whole thing stinks to HIGH heaven…

I had an experience at Columbia one time in a sportsman race where a winner was dq’d for hiem(?) joints on his steering. The racer complained and i investigated with my tech man…learned one of the other racers questioned this prior to the race and my tech man said nothing nor did nothing (add weight?), then after the race my tech man disqualified the driver for said infractions. The driver was dq’d, got no points or trophy but he did leave with winners money ($300) because it wasnt right to let him spend his time or money knowing he would be disqualified later…It cost the track $300 to learn this lesson…money well spent!!! And we all went back to racing!!!

Did any other engines get impounded?

Of course not Benny…this was a stab at ONE racer by a track owner…

Come on!!! REALLY!!! Are we really gonna question HP at Auburndale??? Considering Tech passed Wayne, this was a last ditch attempt by Rex to make sure Wayne didn’t get HIS (and that’s the way he sees it) money!!!

This is beyond sad…

Rex

Seems to me every time Wayne runs there he is wrcked or DQed come on Rex

It is apparent to me Andersons motor was illegal or they would have had no problem pulling it. If people would follow the rules then this would never happen. Also, Rex had a car in the race so if he put the money up to have the motor checked, whats the problem regardless if he is the owner/promoter? I dont care for the way Auburndale is ran but I dont see a problem in this situation.

Escort… this wasn’t done as a car owner protesting…and you know this…and what rules are you speaking of??? FUP sereis??? Yeah well this motor is legal in the FUP series…ran before no problems…and including this race, never ran off and left the field…

If I was Tommy (and knowing his history with Wayne) I would have told them the same…FU!!! This was completely hypocritical…

again, there were only three spec engines approved for this race, cre,jimmycope, and progressive. no engines were checked before the race. you cant just let anybody put seals on and call them spec engines. if there engine had all the corect part numbers, they would have tore it down?? i have always been told, if the correct seals are not on the engine, it is illigal period…

Where do you see the rules for THIS race…it was promoted as FUP series rules???

  1. Crate, Sealed or Spec Engines must have proper seals in place, NO EXCEPTIONS.

Who says the seals or seal numbers were wrong???

Im on no sides here. I am just a spectator speaking my opinion. Just because Wayne didnt leave the field doesnt mean he was legal. Hell there probably wasnt a legal car in the top 10.

If this wasnt a car owner protest, what was it? If you dont see the rules for this race then how can you say that he was legal?

You can’t be serious he put up money because he believes his car was beat only because wayne had from what I was told was a limited motor sealed by an unaproved builder, still weighed 2850 like a super has to, not taking the 100lb weight break, only got by the 07 because he broke. ?? Who was holding the cash for the protest?? Was it put up in time? was is a protest or was it a call from tech. Are you just tring to find a way to rationalize this. It may sit well in a few minds but REAL racers and fans see how WRONG this is. Who s next?

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wayne could have showed up there with a bone stock junkyard 305 and finished 50 laps down and rex would have still disqualified him for something made up . no way is wayne ever going to take 10 cents from that track . this had absolutly nothing to do with motors period . rex cant stand wayne and will do anything to hurt him .

If I understand what happened correct from someone that was there, this motor was thrown out due to it being a Koury motor, not the seals that it had…

I guess what I’m asking is was this race ran under FUP rules or not?

If it was, when was it decided that the Koury motors were not allowed to run in the FUP sereis???

With the tech tools today, there is no reason for an engine to be pulled. And if you do pull it, the first thing thats going to happen is they are going to put it on a dyno. Because of the difference in dyno results the only way to do this properly would be to pull another LLM SPEC engine from the same race and do a hp/torque comparison between the two. At that point if there is a noticable difference between the two, the tools come out and the engine gets torn down.

I’m just trying to understand why this all took place when it did when there were so many opportunities for this to be resolved prior. The way it appears to me, it looks as if the track owner is a poor loser.

I sure hope there is something I’m not seeing here.

Tim, I dont understand why you are beating up Rex Guy?? Every race, if a spec engine comes through in the top 3-5, the seals are checked, against the list from the approved engine builders. It is not legal to buy a spec engine from one of the engine builders and have it re-built by your engine builder. Wyane is a good guy, but it is not about Wayne, if any spec engine comes through without the proper seals on it, it is dq’ed. If they let Wayne through without the proper seals, it opens up a huge can of worms to the credibility of the spec engine program in florida, which has worked fine for at least 10 years now. For the third time the 3 engine builders are and have been…1.progressive…2. jimmy cope…3. cre…This is black and white, and has nothing to do with rex guy, or wayne, just the tech guys doing there job…period

If that’s the case. Which it’s not. Why was it not found in pre race tech and or after qualifying?

I’m well aware of how the SPEC program “should” work. This goes far deeper than a driver taking a spec motor to their own “motor builder” and having it freshened up. I think by some of the things you have said you already know that. For Auburndale to claim ignorance to these few approved motors is not a very strong leg to stand on. But then again, when your a person that can’t be wrong…you’ll grab at anything to be right.

With $5000 on the line and it being a memorial race, I would think something as simple as reading seal numbers would have been done in either pre-tech, or definately after THIS particular driver qualified 3rd?

What I think happened,…As I have seen many times at many tracks, a persons ego will overshadow their perception of right and wrong. Most of the time its racers, which I get in the heat of the moment. But it should NEVER be the owner/promoter.

If I’m wrong about something here tell me and I’ll appologize immediately. I have expressed my opinions and only my opinions based on things I have heard from people that WERE there. So I could be wrong!!! Who the hell am I anyways???

Tim, also, from what I have researched, that engine would not be legal at Desoto, Citrus, or NSS?? The only time a spec engine from that engine builder was legal, was when Wayne had his own series? I do believe it will be legal in Punta Gorda only. Please double check that, but as far as I know Byron Kory spec engines are not approved or legal at those tracks, Again, I believe if any other racer won, with a spec engine, they would be put under the same inspection. Just my opinion…:slight_smile:

Pre race tech is where this should be checked How else would they know what the proper weight for your car would be. And Many other builders motors were at this race and races in the past. We have raced both hammer and mcgunnigil motors there never been a problem.

Do your research again…