Al Kuhn in the tan #112; does anyone know who’d be in the #82?
look at the hubs. i bet it is a northern driver.
long shot here,but…terry senneker?
[SIZE=“4”]I don?t think that photo is from the 1977 Florida 200. If it is, neither one of those two cars were in the show.
Here is the finishing order of the entire field from our family program for that race.
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Hey, Jim, 1978, maybe? Got one from that year?
Don’t think that Terry Senneker ever made the trip.
Wow. Looking at your starting lineup…we started SIXTH with Scarborough in our car - against one of the best fields to ever start a Governor’s Cup (gotta take 1978’s field into consideration with Trickle and Anderson ). I mean, look who’s in front of us:
Hamke, Howe, Senneker, LeRoy, and Don Gregory. Those were the ONLY cars that out-qualified us. Ran second in the heat race - to Billy Barnwell.
Man…some tough fields in them days, huh, Jim?
What a great mix. Nascar drivers Wendell Scott & Charlie Glotzbach, Northerners like Senneker, Howe, Malcuit & Gregory, and locals like Porter, Rogers, Scarborough, Alexender, Fenton, Reutimann… and of course, Dave “Fletcher”…!
A guess on the 82 car… any chance it could be Billy Bigley Sr? I think Billy Jr. started in the early 80’s.
Check out the 19th place starter… ahead of some pretty big names and I can promise you it was on less than a shoestring budget…
Wendell drove a car owned by St. Pete local, Jim Gray. I got to sit in that same car at Gray’s house on that Saturday
Jerry, I don’t think it was Bigley, Sr. - I can’t recall him or Junior ever coming to Tampa. Seen Jr. a coupla times at St. Pete, though.
The surface actually looks somewhat…northern— just gussing----I havn’t seen trees like that in a long time down here, and I have also not seen an outside railing/wall like that in a long time, down here…the oval is a semi-banked oval, 1/2 mile in length, with cement blocks/walls…the cars are from up NORTH, and it’s being run on an AFTERNOON card.
If this a photo of a Florida Raceway, and cars. than I’ve been dooped.(still going with mt. clemons racway)
[SIZE=“4”]Actually gentlemen the penned-in list on the program page under ?Florida 200? is the finishing order for the entire field, not the starting order. Here is the finishing order also as it appeared in the Tampa Tribune the following day. Many of you will also recognize some of the names listed above the Florida 200 results for the East Bay Raceway results that same weekend.
Here is the Pre-Entry List (at press time) for the 1977 Florida 200 and I don?t see either one of these two cars here either. Which is not really conclusive because there?s still many names missing here.
Speaking of Wendell Scott, he was the Grand Marshall for this race. He also failed to qualify due to mechanical problems.
More print articles on this race from the Tampa Tribune. Here is the wreck occurring early in the race as a result of Ronnie Pitts blown engine. Not mentioned to the right of the photo is Charlie Glotzbach who is shown here passing between Alexander in the 15 and Pitts in the 49. Through his daughter I still communicate with Charlie to this day.
Here is a post-race article from an interview with Alexander.
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Cool !! Rick Wilson wins the super-six feature.
I’m thinking the photo is from 1978 - the last Governor’s Cup to be run on a Sunday afternoon at the Gate… I have no idea who the #82 is… Here are the time trial results from both the 1976 and 1977 races… also a photo I took of Wendell Scott in 1977… A lot of folks don’t know that Robert Hamke lost his brakes going into turn three during the first practice session on Sunday morning in 1977 and flew off into the dirt bank… They got the car ready just before the race started and then he goes out and passes Ed Howe for the win… what a great race that was!
I don’t know for sure but is the #82 one of Al Kuhn old rides?
He did drive a car that was a red Camaro #82 at one time.
Dave it was not the brakes, the upper hose came off on the engine side.They brought the car back in on the hook I took the right side tires off knocked the sand out of the wheels towed it in 1/4 and it ran faster than before the dirt bank incident.The funny part is Robert didn’t get mad.I was up till 4am repairing the car from a wreck at St. Pete that’s where the crack in the pan came from.The they that fixed the car were me and Rick Chauncey that was the crew that day.
I think the 82 is Biederman in one of Ed Howes old cars???
[QUOTE=AB195;111710]The surface actually looks somewhat…northern— just gussing----I havn’t seen trees like that in a long time down here, and I have also not seen an outside railing/wall like that in a long time, down here…the oval is a semi-banked oval, 1/2 mile in length, with cement blocks/walls…the cars are from up NORTH, and it’s being run on an AFTERNOON card.
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AB195 It is definitely Golden Gate Speedway.The Florida 200 was run on Sunday afternoon. Here is another picture taken during the day and you can see the fence and the trees off turn 3 and 4 that match up with the picture Jimmy posted. In Jimmy’s picture the wall looks like it is right at the edge of the track, but in reality, it is back about 60-80 feet
Trshintrn4----I guess that I’ve been proven wrong. The outside railing/walls look very different, some 60/80 feet out of the surface, something that I’ve not seen in a while.
Cool, you are, for proving me wrong. The trees on the outside are another deal…guess they were there all along. I bow my head in shame( i do this often on numorous items).
Golden Gate Speedway-----AncrDave will agree, I think, on the Raceway/location.
You are an astute man, and I gotta’ go with you on this. My only guess was was that this was not a Florida Raceway, and now, it seems it is so very Golden Gate.
These are all from the 1977 race.
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David Rogers and Roger Boone (according to Fenton’s score sheet) line up.
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Billy McGinnis and Paul Conners
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Don Gregory, Ronnie Pitts, LeRoy Porter, Buck Simmons, and McGinnis sit on the frontstretch.
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Our car, with Scarborough driving, in the pits
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Chargin’ Charlie Glotzbach, pitted right next to us (that’s our green Chevy crew cab there in the background).