[QUOTE=mr south 59;159235]Matt, could explain to me how it will be a deciding factor for you to bring your super if you don’t even have a super. I would say whether they lifted the mandatory purchase price or not, you still would not be fielding a car.
And Matt, Scott did not explain exactly anything. All he did was blow up a big smokescreen. He never mentioned exactly how much the barrels of fuel are that he buys every year nor how many. Or his source which is the only detail that could prove whether his statement was true or not. He never mentioned how much the sets of tires are he buys from “his guy”. I have to throw the BS flag on his whole statement, because it’s pretty much BS if you can’t back it up.
If these products are not readily available to the general public then it’s just a bullshit story. It won’t help the racer at all. It just helps the guy who will cut somebody’s throat and by products out the back door. Like I said before, he won’t post the price that he is getting them for and he won’t post his source, to me again it’s just a bullshit story.
Anybody can come on here just like you and say that you can obtain these items cheaper than we get them for the track but I have yet to have you anybody post this mysterious location and pricing. Again it’s another bullshit story.
So again. I will ask either one of you to disclose your sources where we can buy the tires cheaper than we can buy them for at the track. And please do the same thing for Sunoco standard 110.
Sunoco has a standard pricing for all its distributors. Right now Sunoco standard 110 if you buy it in bulk $500.78 for 55gals. that does not include the barrel fee and the cost to either ship it or go pick it up. Like I said. The invoice last 55 gallon drum that I bought a few months ago was $599.50 including the drum. it is even more in a 5 gallon container. So again. I will throw the bullshit flag.
Now don’t get me wrong. There’s a legitimate ways to get the fuel cheaper than you can buy it for at the track. Sunoco gives you a substantial break ($2.50 a gal) after you buy a minimum of 4-55 gallon drums. And if you buy eight it’s an even more substantial break. So the race track with that sponsor deal from the fuel vendor gets the fuel at a substantial discount. They can sell it to you cheaper than you can buy it for anywhere else and still make a profit after paying somebody to pump it for you and the administrative value that is included. Again, that is why you can buy a cheaper at the track then you can’t anywhere else. So Scott would have to buy a minimum of four barrels and go pick them up and store them for about a year to get a dollar 50 per gallon break on the fuel. That’s a $15 savings on 10 gallons that is mandatory to buy at the track. To me it is not worth the hassle nor the out-of-pocket expense that Scott claims to not have to save $15 when I get to the racetrack.
FYI. You’re throwing out all these names of different fuel brands and fuel vendors or even pump gas. You probably don’t even realize in the rules, the rules call for specific brands of fuel that we must run at the track. And it also states that you are not allowed to run any type of pump gas.
And just to clarify. I normally burn about 20 to 27 gallons on a race weekend. It really doesn’t concern me if I have to buy 10 gallons of fuel to help support the track. The few dollars you claim it may be costing me it’s really not even worth the time of this thread.[/QUOTE]
Lets start with the rules. Desoto and Auburndale allow you to use any brand of race gas you like. I believe the same is true for most tracks in Florida, the obvious hold outs being Showtime and NSS i think.
Your shortsighted idea of buying the tires and gas at the track miss a very obvious point. There are speed shops, race shops, and others trying to survive. You can’t possibly be so clueless that you think it’s a BAD idea to spread the money around, help keep everyone in business. The tracks don’t bother to lift a finger toward selling advertising to keep themselves healthy, i’m sure not going to feel sorry for them if they can’t also grab all of the tire and gas money too.
We won’t bother going into the gas price nonsense again, i already gave you 2 examples by name, that can sell you race gas cheaper. You can call BS on Scott all you like, but i’m not seeing you prove him wrong. He gets a deal on tires, you call bs. He gets a deal on gas, you call bs. From what you’ve posted, i go along with my original statement that whoever is selling you gas sure must hate you. Probably the same with the tires. It just might be that Scott has a gas supplier that is willing to deal. Or he might buy an entirely different brand.
It looks like some tracks charge a reasonable price for tires and gas. I guess Palm Beach isn’t one of those where race gas is concerned. Neither is Showtime from what i’ve seen posted.