Orlando Ministocks

Where are the orlando ministocks at? I have come down from SC for the first 2 of the winter series races, and was hoping to test with the locals. Any more cars plan on showing up on the 5th?

I know of one or two cars that will be there for the next race

Who all? And what are quick times? I know what I am turning but I dont know what to compare it to.

In addition, what is a popular final drive ratio? Im using a 6.50 turning around 8400

I"ll be bringing my scca car to run and Rex ‘BONEMAN’’ Hollinger said he might come out.

quick lap times are 15.6-15.8
final drive ratio: I ran 6.01 @7800

Awesome. hope to see you guys there. Come down and say Hi. You cant miss my car, its bright yellow.

I"ll see you there

how many ministocks were at the last race?

On one hand, I think there are a variety of problems in our class, but on the other hand, Volusia runs similar rules and draws healthy fields of 20+ cars.

Hopefully things will improve for mini stocks compared to a dismal 2007 season. I think, OSW is a great track for minis. We can run side by side by side for lap after lap there.

There were 2 of us at the last race.

I really think the tube chassis cars being allowed to run have killed the division. Not to mention the motor rules are a bit on the extreme side. I dont want to tell you guys down there how to do things but from what I see the best thing for that class would be to back up on the motor rules some and make the tube chassis cars their own division. There are not many people that can make stock platforms keep up with tube cars.

Your right about the tube chasis ruining the class. but I have seen some “stock” frame cars and even Leaf spring cars do just as good as any tube frame cars

You are right that a stock frame car can keep up. Its just the amount of adjustibility in a tube car that can be the advantage. The motor rules are the worse of the 2 evils. I know Pedie Alisons motor builder pretty well, infact he does all my machine and head work. Pedie had close to 10 grand in each of his 2 motors. There is not one cure all to the ministock division. It has gotten very expensive. Even more expensive than most of the v8 divisions. Like I said though I will be there for the rest of the winter series. I think I finally found this misfire. 7 dollar power valve. Had me pulling my hair out.

There is not one cure all to the ministock division. It has gotten very expensive. Even more expensive than most of the v8 divisions.

true, I got less money in my latemodel then most people have in their ministocks

I think most of it comes from the rarity of parts. Good heads and intakes are very hard to find. Pistons and rods for a 2.3 are almost twice what they are for a v8. Blocks and cranks are cheap. I spend almost a grand for a block and a crank up here. I know the line of thinking behind the tube chassis. These cars are hard to find in undamaged condition. I still think there are more cost effective ways to make a stock type floorpan more repairable, and fare better in hard crashes.

as far as heads go I think they should allow the Esslinger aluminum heads.It’s cheaper to buy one of them than to have a good “stock” head built.

I would tend to agree with you, although a very crafty machinist could find a lot of horsepower in one of those heads and no one would know how. At least with a stock head there can be some kind of control kept on the modifications. I have talked with a friend of mine from NC that I know has spent over 150,000 on r&d in 4 cylinder engines, about what to do to keep the costs down. Tracks up here have instituted rod weight rules. Has to weigh as much or more than stock. We have a lift rule of .450, and a flywheel and pressure plate weight of 25 lbs. Counts have drastically increased since these rules were instituted and the more open rules were cut out.

all I know is that something has to be done or car counts in the class will continue to drop. unfortunately no one seems to have the answer.

just curious what do they pay to win up there?

I suggest modernizing the rules to allow newer engines, EFI, multiple valves, whatever is available on the street, but keep them much closer to stock. As it is, we are spending more and more to get increased power from a carburated dinosaur of an engine.

We should look at 6 cylinder engines too. Add a weight penalty and run a 6.

Pay up here ranges from 200 to 250. I do believe we need to stay away from EFI. There is a class called UCARS up around here that is factory stock and EFI is allowed. That has already turned into some serious bickering and money being spend. Good intentions, hard to keep fair. I have no clue what could fix it, but if you two are at the track on the 5th I would be glad to give my share of imput from being on both sides of the fence on rules. We have even had a restrictor plate rule up here. That really cut rpms so motors last longer. Problem is hard to pass.

GOOD luck geting them to allow EFI