"I want to take a minute to address a few things regarding racing at OSW.
As you seen in a previous post, we will be doing a strictly stock race on Oct 7. This race is happening because Clean Cut Tree Service has stepped up and wants to make this happen. If this goes well, they will want to do several more of them over the next few months.
In addition, I have also been tossing around the idea of doing a combined SLM/PLM race every few weeks. I have talked to some drivers, and owners and they all seem to think it is possible. Before I move forward with this idea, we are going to do a few tests and see what needs to be done to make the PLM competitive with the SLM. The idea is to do these races on Sundays. Right now this is just an idea, so I am not going to get into what we will run with them, what the payouts will be, etc. It is too soon to get any of that out there, or even speculate about it.
Also, just so everyone is clear, I am only going to do what makes sense for the track as a whole. You are going to see other things on the schedule. You will see drifting, Autocross, Rally, Car shows, Driving Events, and more. You may not like what you see, but it is about the track as a whole. You would see Rocket launches if I thought it would aid in the overall health of the track.
I welcome comments on the above race format (SLM/PLM) and as I have said from day one you can also call or come by the track. I am here just about everyday.
Thanks
Donnie"
Y’all better call Donnie and let ‘im know how you’re feelin’ about this announcement, good, bad, or otherwise.
Dig up the old FAST Series rules for combining the 2 classes. They were able to somewhat equalize the SLM’s, the PLM’s and also the Limited LM’s.
The show I saw at OSW with this package was very competitive and cars from each group spent time in the lead. In fact, all 3 styles were represented on the podium.
Whatever they did to even things out, worked from a fans perspective.
They also attracted enough cars to need a B-Main… and THAT doesn’t happen often.
Can you run Multi-Stage Rockets or is it Single Stage only? Last time you let the Jets run with us and they had an advantage because they are lighter and can take off from a standing start and get airborne faster but we make it up at Altitude, plus they’re not really Rockets at all because they run on Jet Fuel and the fans come to see Rockets not those crap cans billowing black smoke like a Diesel. You said you don’t wanna discuss payout but I know a lot of Rockets parked em because the payout was only posted on Spacebook and not here, are you going to post here? That’s not really a payout question so hopefully you can clarify.
What a shame this tree company should have done this at another track two classes running 50 lapper and 100 lapper and thats the only classes there going to race. osw not vary smart they could have added some other classes to go with this to make it a full night of raceing. no fans are going to show up for this because nobody is going to come out for this short program about a hour and half max with intermission LOL. and they wont know about it unless they facebook. how much is going to cost to get in? is osw going to charge there 30 to get in the pits. donnie doesnt care if it fails he said on facebook thier not the ones putting this on.
I think you are missing the fact that the tree company (really the people from Melbourne Motorsports Park it seems) are RENTING the track. When you rent the track for an event like this, generally the track charges those renting the track, collects their money and sits back and watches. Melbourne Motorsports Park has been having trouble getting the proper permits, so they decided to rent OSW. It’s a win for OSW, they collect the money and do no work. Think about it a little more…
If you think you can do a better job, I would LOVE to see you put up the money needed to do so. Cmon! Go for it! Since you have all the answers and are so quick to criticize the people from Melbourne
For what it’s worth, it doesn’t look like Melbourne had a bad thing going on at all… Pretty decent number of people and cars for such a home grown backyard type operation… Impressive to me for what it is… Hell, at one point in the video, there is a 20 car field shown… If you think that’s failing, your perception of reality is very tainted.
For the long term health of Speedworld, as well as spectator enjoyment, additional high end classes would certainly be a help.
On the other hand, big props go out to Melbourne Motorsports Park and the Tree Company (what the heck is the name of it so we can give 'em a little advertising?) for their financial support of OSW & the sport.
I would like a hundred bucks, but I will certainly pick up five if I see it lying on the ground…
[QUOTE=OldSchool+;150872]Well…both sides of this discussion are valid.
For the long term health of Speedworld, as well as spectator enjoyment, additional high end classes would certainly be a help.
On the other hand, big props go out to Melbourne Motorsports Park and the Tree Company (what the heck is the name of it so we can give 'em a little advertising?) for their financial support of OSW & the sport.
I would like a hundred bucks, but I will certainly pick up five if I see it lying on the ground…[/QUOTE]
The guys from Melbourne don’t seem to have the experience with the higher divisions nor do they likely have the money to bring them in. What they are doing is great and works for them and on the larger scale stage that OSW can provide may even get better. I don’t get the continuous need for people to pick everything that everyone does apart like they can do a better job. Get off your ass and support it. Its better than nothing and they may not be “real race cars” as everyone with their elitist mentality likes to put it, but more times than not, the grassroots style of racing puts on the best physical on track action.
Remember, money rules the world. Without money there is nothing anymore. It’s real easy for people to forget that so I understand why so many people seem to have the “it would ve better if it was done this way” thought process but you have to think of it with a logical business mentality. If the money isnt there to make it happen, it physically can not happen. If this wasn’t the case things would be a lot better everywhere in racing.
Phil I have been going to this track for 28 years . Not downing anything nor do I know it all but stateing the facts as they are happening in front of all our eyes. lets see how many people drive over from melbourne to watch this. I was told they had about 300 fans in the cow pastrue when they did race. They had to tail gate because the had no stands to sit in over there. I would go out if they had more classes running and depending what it will cost to get in. but its not worth the drive out for such a short program. and I thought melborune motorsports park was doing so well I was told a couple months ago they were raceing there and I didnt know what I was talking about I guess the info I had was correct.
It’s very likely those 300 “fans” were friends, family and crew for the drivers. It looked to be such a back yard organization (which mind you is NOT a bad thing at all!) Melbourne doesn’t run more than just a couple divisions as I have been told and the reasoning for doing things at OSW right now seems to stem from issues with permitting. Any track could be doing really well and have some dipshit in local government get a stick up their ass and find a way to shut it down due to a wrong word on the permits. It’s happened many times in many places over the years including the Kart track I raced at up until last season here in Mass.
I wish them luck for sure. If I was there, I would go at least for this show just to see what it’s all about. I love grassroots style racing. Lot’s of people do honestly, but it is a kind of niche group which again, is not at all a bad thing.
Why couldnt we put a two day event together and put on a big come back show for OSW. Sat. The Florida Truckers 150 starting at 2:oo pm along with Pro late models 175. starting after the truck race. In the parking lot in front of the track have the food truck guys come out. Get a band, meet and greet with drivers. Sun. at 1:00 Florida Mods. 175 second show will be the Super late 200. Adults 10:00 kids under 16 8:00 . You would pack the house both days.
I can bring 5 trucks, 3 Mods, 3 supers and 1 Pro late. There are tons of cars sitting on the east coast that will come out run. We need to see some payouts and need Advertising . This place would be standing room only.
[QUOTE=Lurkin;150851]Can you run Multi-Stage Rockets or is it Single Stage only? Last time you let the Jets run with us and they had an advantage because they are lighter and can take off from a standing start and get airborne faster but we make it up at Altitude, plus they’re not really Rockets at all because they run on Jet Fuel and the fans come to see Rockets not those crap cans billowing black smoke like a Diesel. You said you don’t wanna discuss payout but I know a lot of Rockets parked em because the payout was only posted on Spacebook and not here, are you going to post here? That’s not really a payout question so hopefully you can clarify.[/QUOTE]What the h***…?!
Look. It seems like “everyone” wants to see the central Florida speed plant survive - or, better yet, come back from the dead. I only passed along (copied and pasted) information to you guys that are down there. Since a LOT of you are NOT on FaceBook, I merely passed along the information. I apologize on missing the date thing; I didn’t check to see what day October 7 was.
I have ZERO - zip, nada - to do with the track. I have NO idea on any payouts or anything. Like I said in the first post, CALL DONNIE at the track if you have any comments, questions or suggestions, good or bad.