You guys need to figure out something with the modifieds . Bronson had more modifieds for their 50 lapper . Face it big motor mods are not working at new Smyrna . You really should think about a E-mod class for next year .
You better go back and look at old results the last osw race 19 e mod showed up . And at NSS it was average 12 showing up for a regular race . Out of all those Emods only 4 of them are running with big mods what happen to the rest of those cars where are they parked ? And those cars that went to Bronson hasn’t raced NSS at all this year fact. The 6/8 cars has always been the big motor class fact. Oh wait last night they had 7 for a 50 lapper fact again.
E mods only started showing up at nss in bigger numbers when they found out that they were being dropped .
Drivers only want to support their class or track after it is too late.
Make your mind up Micheal frist you say they had no cars now you admit that that a bunch showed up because they were getting canceled . But hey sounded like a good choice the track made . guys made a effort to show up to show they wanted to race Emod class. and the track cancled the class sounds like a great choice the track made. They drop the truck class at NSS when they were only having 5/7 show up so how much longer are they going to give the mod class ? I will bet if they tell the mod class they are going to drop them if more don’t show up. they could’nt get 10 cars to show up fact. They can’t even get cars for a 50 lapper .
Modifieds have only ran 3 times this year and the car count has been 10 10 8. The car count is low in all the classes this year. Changing the classes is not going to be the magic fix.
I would make the cars running a sb2 ad 60 or 70 lbs. Allow cars to run the ls3, 604 , Ford coyote, and dodge hemi. To run with a weight break and/or more left side weight.
I would also start allowing tube clips in 2018 with no weight penalty.
I do not think that will help the car count any because the biggest complaints at nss (in all classes) seem to be about the politics, or payout. If the rules were to be fixed then there is always the problem of getting new drivers into the class. Seems like not many under the age of 40 or 50 have any interest in the cars.
I have no dog in this fight anymore and glad I don’t. NSS has never really had a great modified car count as compared to other tracks. The e-mods were dominated buy just a couple of cars the rest ran for 3rd. I know one of the e-mods that won either 12 or 13 in a row at orlando and a couple at nss in the short time the emods were around. It still bowls down to who does the most work and can drive the best. You make everyone run create motors but the guy that runs last is still going to be there sorry that is just a fact. I ran a motor at NSS that made at best 500 hp against the big motors and was able to win. I didn’t get on hear and complain about it being unfair that I don’t have a big motor like other guys. I just went and worked on my car harder. I choose to build a modified and new going into it what it would take to run up front and didn’t ask for rules changes because I chose a class I really couldn’t afford.
Yea the one your talking about winning so much had a built motor I always hope someone would put the money up and tear his motor down every nut and bolt guarantee you he wouldn’t of been legal . Thats why the class should have been crate only no built motors . But hey everything seams to working great right I was so glad I didn’t waste my money this past week almost went there .
“I would make the cars running a sb2 ad 60 or 70 lbs. Allow cars to run the ls3, 604 , Ford coyote, and dodge hemi.”--go_05
You know, multi manufacturer stuff always sounds great, and it is what they did in the 60s. But say those were the rules. Something or other would be dominant, and then those with the Fords (or etc) would stay home.
But your post brings up an interesting thought.
Let’s say that the New Smyrna Stated Goal in 2017 to the racers was as follows:
Rule #1–We want equal competition and greater car count. All other rules will be to support Rule #1.
Rule #2–Our baseline engine is “x”. Something inexpensive and easy to maintain.
Rule #3–You can run anything else you like, but weight will be added or subtracted from any or all given combinations monthly–maybe even weekly–solely to make them even with the baseline engine.
Now, this removes incentive to put a bunch of money under the hood. But it may add incentive to those with cars on jackstands to get back to the track.
I don’t see how you can cheat a crate motor if you say no unsealed motors and if you are caught cheating one up they take the whole motor and your fined that would stop most from even thinking about it.
I have a couple comments and questions concerning the e mods and NSS
First of all we are talking about car counts… correct ?
We all know that at NSS you generally need a big motor to keep up down the straights. yes a well handling car will be better in the corners but its hard to beat good ole H.P. down the straights.
Heres a thought. Standardized all the rules at all the tracks in the mod class. No variations period.
Sell one set of tires at every track in the mod class
Even the playing field when it comes to the motors. Restrictor plates handed out in the morning ?
Cam rules ? I am not sure but I certainly know that theres alot of cheated up crates…for years they been cheating the crates and taking advantage of weight breaks.
Finally if you want west coast cars to make the journey you should consider matching the payout. IDK what NSS pays for a feature but Showtime pays 1200 for a 50 lapper with 14 cars or more. They also pay well through the field.
It never seems to work dividing classes unless they are those annoying Dodge neons that ole school mentioned.
A question: Would you rather add weight or add a plate?
Regardless, it would seem that you would look for an engine package that avoided both of those as much as possible. If you could save 10 grand or so that would seem to be a bonus.
ps–Is the modified coming along?
pps–There was a #53 late model that looked a lot like your paint scheme @ Showtime. Any story there…?
I don’t believe anybody’s would’ve willing to restrict their motor they have 15 20 thousand in to even the playin field . if your going to that why spend money to build a motor like that run a crate . And as far as crates being cheated someone can buy there motor. look what happen to Patrick last week he won someone bought his motor . Who would spend money to cheat a crate motor up to risk having it bought for the price of a new crate motor it would be pretty stupid .
Get rid of those little tire modifieds, make a crate motor tour mod class. Run the same engines as the pro late models, they are hard to cheat very much. Then if the local cars want to run speedweeks they just change the motor to a tour motor, bring back the big World Series tour mod races and make a class that people enjoy all in one shot.