Watching It All Go Down

Last night I sat here in front of my computer and watched as events unfolded at Desoto. What I learned had nothing to do with Desoto, it’s owner, ASA, or anyone directly connected with those events. In fact, no media article or report I have seen so far has answered my basic questions about what transpired. Those facts have yet to be uncovered, and hopefully will come to light soon. That aside, I learned that as race fans, drivers, and track officials, employees, and promoters, we all need to carefully watch from where our information comes and make sure that the info we receive is good info before running our mouths or our fingers.

As the whole ugly incident progressed, it became apparent that some sources for “news” and information about racing in Florida are not what they claim to be. Just because a website states that they offer “news,” does not in any way insure that they offer their version of events with any sort of journalistic integrity. True journalists check and recheck sources, never publish second hand info unless they state that it came from an unconfirmed source, and do their darndest to be accurate with the facts. This is NOT about message boards! This is about RACING MEDIA, or what represents itself to be racing media in this state.

I was looking at four different online media outlets last night as everything progressed. Some of the outlets were related and some were not. While some stepped back and gathered facts, others leaped into action with “breaking stories” about the incident. And in one glaring move, at least one website posted information that was presented as hard news that turned out to be patently false, and nothing more than second hand info gleaned from a cell phone. That info was later updated at least three times as the evening progressed, each time with no retraction of what had been stated previously. Having worked in the world of media myself, I know that is a huge no no!

My purpose here is not to name names or point fingers. All I am saying is for all of us to please be careful as to what we take as fact. Just because a website or media outlet represents itself as a “news” source does not mean that they are good journalists, and there is no guarantee that the info they provide is factual. A proper journalist will offer a “breaking news” flash with info on what is going on, but will withhold information that cannot be confirmed. Accusing people of assault when it cannot be confirmed, or stating that someone has been arrested and taken to jail when they have not been, is reckless, irresponsible, and deserving of a slander suit. Editing that infomation out later on and replacing it with more factual information is no excuse, nor a free pass for publishing falsehoods in the first place. And if by chance if something unconfirmed ends up being stated as fact, the proper process is to offer a retraction and not try to cover a lack of journalistic morals with a hastily done edit.

What angers me about the whole thing is that some people can get away with publishing totally false statements as fact, then later just wipe it away as if it never was there. Mistakes happen, but this was far beyond an accidental release of unconfirmed information, especially when no retraction was offered, nor an apology to those affected. Message boards are where I would expect to find such statements and not in something claiming to be journalism.

So please, when reading information, even if it comes from what looks like a credible source, watch and wait and allow all of the facts to come in. With time and and patience, you will get the facts and not a bunch of mixed up heresay that later turns out to be false.

BJ, Right on Great article, Class Act…

Some need to get their facts straight and i’m sure some of these people are the very same attacking posters on this board and the old one.
Once again BJ Class Act Watch out you’ll black listed soon.

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wow
tell me more
so why did asa leave

Why did ASA leave? I have no clue. I was not there. And if you read the accounts posted on various media outlets, no one offers a confirmed answer to that question because ASA has yet to make a statement. There are unconfirmed, secondhand accounts that ASA left because of this and that, but nothing concrete. Again, it’s the difference between confirmed info and heresay.

ASA race

I’m disapointed I won’t ever get to see a asa race at DSS.I’d be happy to go to your track if youall can get one.

ASA race

I’m disapointed I won’t ever get to see a asa race at DSS.I’d be happy to go to your track if youall can get one.

You mean it’s not the Washington Post?

BJ

First off, you obviously have a penchant for well written articles about a sport which you seem to enjoy immensely. By reading your articles and trying to discern your point of view (or editorial slant, if you will) one can sense that you aspire to one day become a well known and widely respected reporter about the great sport of auto racing. If this is your goal, I wish you luck and think you would do well in that endeavor. That’s definitely something that racing is in dire need of (at all levels).

But.

All this being said, why do you continually bemoan the fact that nothing on these message boards and racing websites should be taken as serious, investigative journalism to be read and regarded as the gospel truth about all that is racing? Isn’t that kind of like shooting your own self in the foot? If we are to disregard what we read then, by your own admission, we should cast aside all the well phrased and articulate posts that you put forth. Right? Makes it kind of a Catch-22 situation, doesn’t it?

Actually, (I think)most of us have the thought capacity to understand that message boards are a place for the general public to air their grievances and thoughts about everything and anything they find good, bad or whatever with their racing world. I don’t think too many go to a message board on a mission for truth and hardline facts. And of the people who do, do you really think a well written and intelligent essay about journalistic truth and fiction (which by the way you give mainstream media WAYYY too much credit for source checking) will encourage them to filter all that they read with a fine tooth comb? Probably not going to get through to that type of boardie, anyways.

Again, you are a fine writer and do so with a passion but after a few articles about the same subject it may be time to focus on another theme. The people who have read your stuff understand your feelings about message board decorum. Really.

Someone once said: “The truth shall make you free”.
Just remember what happened to him at the end of the book.
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I’m on BJ’s side here.

Objectivity has nothing to do with whether your a journalist or not, but it IS something taught in journalism classes, so BJ has shown himself to be objective.

He certainly isn’t grinding any axes on old feuds.

Many others certainly seem to have axes to grind, however … and I wish they could spell and speak english.

First of all, I have NEVER stated that everything on any internet message board is not worthwhile reading. There is plenty of valuable info to be gained from message boards, but one must wade through a mountain of crap to get to the good stuff in some cases. The only thing I am stating is that as readers of mesage boards, or even what is represented as “news” in the racing world, we should open our eyes and look for clues as to the validity of what is there. Just because it is posted on message board does not make it untrue, and just because it is posted and labeled as “news” does not make it accurate or truthful.

When one switches on CNN and begins watching coverage of a breaking news story, it is not uncommon for inaccurate information to be reported. Such are the pitfalls of being there first, getting the info out promptly, and being aggressive. But when better info becomes available, a retraction is made as to the earlier info, and sometimes it is done repeatedly. CNN, or any other professional news outlet, does not simply change their story with no explanation. That did not happen in the case of one racing “news” outlet on Friday night.

For many fans, calling it “news” creates the impression that it something more than message board speculation and second hand info. In other words, labeling it as “news” implies a certain level of integrity and accuracy. Sorry, but that apparently is not the case with some outlets who claim to offer racing “news” in Florida.

Washington Post revisited

I had a response to John typed up and ready to go but this silly new board format needs you to log in twenty times before you can reply to a post.

On that front, I agree with a lot of others. The old deal was much, much better.

But to BJ, again, about these racing news services you are accessing for breaking news and stories. They aren’t CNN, ABC, NBC or even ESPN and cannot be compared on any journalistic level, can they? They are what they are and even if you don’t believe it, I think that most people know this and give them(the sites) the credit they are due. If you waiting for retractions from people who are just trying to help get some kind of information out to the select folks who use the Internet as a source for results and rumors then I suggest you don’t hold your breath while you wait. Not only are you dealing with a demographic who don’t usually get paid enough for the things they do while AT the tracks, most put out their internet reports on their own time and with little to no thanks at that.
I think you wrote an article about that, too, didn’t you? I may be thinking of someone else, not sure.

Anyways, I’m tired of hearing about the evils and pitfalls of the message boards and their members. I would like to see you do an interview/essay with one of the state’s most successful driver’s of all time. Dickie Anderson. Not that he is my favorite driver but because he is an elder statesman of the top class of competition here in Florida. And because the thing they did on the radio show was pretty pathetic. I wanted to hear Dickie’s thoughts and theories about racing. Not the guy who only talks about himself and his nonsensical slant on things. If you could somehow work it out, then that would be an interesting read.

My other post was not meant to be “a bash” against you but it seems you may have taken it that way. Sorry if I wasn’t clearer on this.

I never thought that you were attempting to bash me. We agree to disagree, and that is that. And when I think about it, maybe my past experience has caused me to expect too much from many websites, so maybe we don’t disagree as much as we might think.