I saw a whopping four cars in this class at NSS … If this class wants to keep the fans bored, keep doing single file restarts and have the four cylinder late models start up front.
FASCAR might want to look into reducing the number of feature laps for small fields. there is NO POINT in running 20 laps with 4 or 5 cars.
and they might not want to institute double file restarts on a general basis but for a field with <7 cars it could add some much needed spice to the show.
I also like having a 4 Cyl. LM
the statement was made that “The class has gotten out of hand but now that it’s out of hand there’s no going back”.
that’s a very disappointing attitude to me. if we’re just going to up and say that “We aren’t capable of effective handicapping” then i’m not even sure what we’re discussing in the rules meeting.
applied, it also means that FASCAR has no interest in any of those 5-15 year old mini-stocks ( you know, from back when Mini-Stocks were an entry level class like they’re supposed to be ) that might be sitting in somebodies yard or in a garage. which, i thought, was the whole point of these meetings? to get people who just have cars sitting around to bring them out to the track? sorry, i must have gotten confused…
Boneman’s point about DOT tires is one effective rule change.
adding weight to the right side would be another.
i also heard a suggestion for a weight penalty for repeat winners. i’m not so much in favor of that as there will be those who use it as an excuse not to work on their car but it’s something.
Heat races are not used for feature placement ,
ummm, yes they are? it’s certainly in the 2008 FASCAR rule book that way. most other tracks that i’ve attended use the heats + pill draw inversion ( or something ) to set feature lineups.
so why use up and tear up race cars for no purpose
we could ask why the drivers are tearing up race cars for no purpose … but everybody tells me i have a negative attitude.
i can’t come up with one single good reason for newer bodied cars not to be included in stock car classes as well as mini stocks .
they’re afraid of EFI and ECU’s.
keep in mind, i’m not saying it’s a good reason and they might not even admit to it. but that’s what it comes down to in most cases.
As a fan , i want pay a reasonable ticket price , eat quality food , be entertained , and get home by 10:00 or 10:30 . A movie allows me to do that . Mostly , stock car races do not .
well said.
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but is it a better show if those same 4-6 cars go 20 laps, rather than 8? It usually sucks just as bad, but for twice as long. [/I]
also well said.
You wanna move the show along? Skip the interviews with the top 3 drivers in every class (out of the 4 drivers IN that class),
damn straight. the next time i see an entire class pull up at the start/finish line for pictures i swear i’m going to get a gun.
“Ooooh, I finished dead last in a field of four cars. I gots to gets me a picture”. <<<< these people have no shame. great “self-esteem” but no shame. makes you wonder which is more useful.
speaking of which, the 1.3 is a top 5 Sportsman at OSW. we should have our picture taken.
Some drivers may be unwilling to start from the back .
i get the strangest feeling that many of the drivers who don’t want to start from the back are also the ones in favor of soft slicks, racing springs, 4 corner jacking bolts and big motors.
anybody want to take bets?
Every tiny detail about short track stock car racing has to be put under the microscope and one question asked , does this help to put on a good show for the fans , and can it be changed to put on an even better show for the fans .
AJ, i’m going to have to adopt you or something.
Austrailian Pursuit Races
this is a qualifying race or it functions as a 10 lap feature? not enough laps if you’re going to let all the other fast cars start up front on me. they’d get too much space in the first five laps to close back up. and i’m betting that with cars dropping out of the field constantly yellows are far and few between.
It’s call the Monza system.
it’s an idea. and it might work at a track that only runs 4 classes, maximum.
FASCAR has:
Strictly Stock
Mini Stock
Super Stock
Sportsman
Modified
Limited Late Model
Super Late Model
plus whatever touring series or Legends cars or Bandelero’s or whatever else they’re throwing on top of us.
it’s not viable here unless you were to run only two races for each class. in which case, the ‘heat’ race would be your first feature.
the downside is that it confuses the issue for the fans. you could easily have a guy “win” the night who doesn’t finish first in a single race. i think it sounds great for club racing, not so good for spectating.