I wonder if we get into it in Korea if that will be Georges fault too. You’re absolutely right about it starting, or SHOULD of started long before George W. Bush. If Boney punches me in the nose and I do nothing, and then tie my hand behind my back like Clinton did the military and say, like Clinton, on the Cole, "Its not significant, they, (AlQuida) “are just a little splinter cell” wouldn’t that tell Boney I won’t defend myself. Oh, I believe the national Debt is what 2 or is it 3 times what it was when Bush was pres? By OBAMA own admission it will be 4-5 times that if he’s in office 8 full yrs. YUP, go play basketball Obama!!
I’m not really in this debate, but just for fun…
For everybody comparing Bush and JFK, don’t forget Kennedy was a Democrat. The Bay of Pigs mess you call brave and daring was actually conceived and planned under Eisenhower (Republican), Kennedy later thought he may have been set up to look bad when it failed. Of course today’s dems and rebs don’t have all the same views as 50 years ago, but you get the point. Hmmm… maybe we really should judge people individually and not with a broad party brush.
The first Trade Center bombing happened in Feb 1993, one month after Bush 1 left office. The Cole was attacked one month before Bush 2 won the election and 9-11 happened 8 months after he took office. Plenty of blame to go around. Yes Carol, the atrocities happened long before Bush, like when our forefathers forcefully removed Native Americans from their lands and forced Africans into slave labor to make sugar farming more profitable. I’m not so sure we need to return to “some” of the ways our forefatheers did things. There are reasons things change, sometimes for the better.
Ending rant here… proceed
pitcrew
cant disagree about slavery and the Indians… but we have make alot of progress in that field. so now we have other problems and we just need to fix them.i never said this country was perfect at any time in history. but now we are in a nuclear era… we cant go on a battlefield with substandard guns and fight for a cause. the president at this time needs to be able to handle some pretty crazy people who want nothing more than to destroy us… to handle a poverty stricken country hell bent on destroying our people with drugs and warfare… our neighbors! a defective immigration problem, nuclear weapons, corporate robbery, serious mind altering depressive drugs! … we need a government and people who will stand together … all the fighting amongst ourselves gives “them” an advantage…
carol
With regard to domestic policy, Obama will continue to pursue socialism at every opportunity. He would like to see every state adopt the policy’s of
California. Wouldn’t that just be grand?
With regard to Foreign policy, Obama will continue to ABDICATE responsibility
at every opportunity.
Clinton signed the bills that a Republican congress wrote, that reduced the deficit. He was smart enough to move back to the center when he knew he
was in trouble.
Obama is a “Saul Alinsky” trained idealogue who will do no such thing. He will
“pretend” that he is moving to the center, however.
Until we rid ourselves of this ridiculous two party system, the Democrats vs. Republicans thing will be just like pro wrestling… It’s the heels vs. the baby faces… for awhile, one is in control, then the other is in control… It keeps things going and things, of course, never really change…
Until we are really a government “By the people and for the people” as stated in the constitution where our elected representatives actually represent their constituency instead of represent their party affiliation or special interests, we will continue to have the same crap served up to us year in and year out…
You must realize that this country is not run by the President or Congress, but by big business, big banks and foreign money interests… and just try to get in their way!!
Dave!
You said it all in a nutshell!!! WTG!
carol
Start the debate, but can’t finish it? FAIL.
[QUOTE=Benny The Mule;56387]You were the 1st to bring up a Black president you racist.:sprachlos020:
Your union in fla? I was in the 80’s and it didn’t work out that well for me seeing as all they wanted me to do was picket and strike instead of work and feed my family.
Walmart wage? i do much better than that without crippling companies to do it…wow!
Oh, BTW. You know where Boeing went right? SC to get out of the union stronghold that was bleeding the company to death.
You are obviously a Democrat so you would support BOBO the monkey if he was elected and blame Bush as you are doing. Although Clinton did do some things well…He left America FAR from being in the black. None of it has been right since FRD and will only get worst.
I am not a republican BTW but i do like the idea of keeping the money i work for instead of handing it out to lazy SOB’s who think a career is sit at home and draw a check.[/QUOTE]
LOL! Bobo the monkey sums it up! Did you hear that the zoo has an African Lion and the White House has a Lyin’ African? White, Black, Purple or Green Obummer and his group of socialists could mess up a wet dream and not even be there! Cripple Creek must be a socialist. The 4 yrs that this idiot spends in office will take 12 to fix, if not more.
hey I heard and interview with Big Daddy Don Garletts that he was some where and Obama came up to him and was so excited to meet him
see what u started backdoorbob .lol!!! this is great!!!
Ok, fail then. Whatever you say. There is no point in trying to deal with Rethuglican idiot, ie Floridians.
I just got a taste of the new Obamma health care system Saturday. Went to pick up one of my many perscriptions (insulin) and got a SHOCK! I get them filled every 90 days and it cost me $90. Now that same perscription is now $254 for 90 days. I guess I’ll cut back to one injection a day instead of 2 and hope for the best. Can’t wait to see what the others cost. You gonna help me out with the extra expense Cripple Creek? I sure do miss the Bush days!
my mother in law had the very same thing happen to her. WTF!!!
My grandmother take the insulin and pills the pills just went up to a copay of $90 and the insulin was $125. She needs it to survive but its going to be hard to survive with the rate the medicine prices are rising
Ok, lets all give you the benifit of the doubt on Bobo getting a bucket of chicken shit and not making chicken soup out of it in just two years IF you can answer one question about “Barry” ( that is his real name) . With the current state of our economy and the nation as a whole, why in the hell has Obama spent more money on his “trips” in the FIRST TWO YEARS of office than Clinton and Bush did combined during their entire 8 year terms? When GWB went on vacation he went to his ranch which HE OWNED and Clinton did something along the same lines. 12k a night in Hawaii at our expense when people are out of work and we are so far in the red is crazy? How about every other place he has gone? Please elaborate on forementioned topics for us “Rethuglican idiots” so we might better understand.
cripplecreeksh!$, do you get scared when you see Muslims on planes with their turbines on their heads? I sure do! remember 911? That is the problem with this country when we have people voting like you! Obama would never be as good as GW Bush was. I felt safer when Gw was in charge. Maybe we need to change the law and re-elect him to a 3rd term. Hopefully his brother JEB will run because he has more brains then both put together. But you would probably get stupid idiots like u that would say he is a BUSH I’m not voting for him. I hoping that OBAMA sides with the Democrats during his last 2yrs in office. If he does thats the last of him. Maybe we will have change in 2012 when Romney/Rubio win. I think the problem is alot of new voters do not know the difference between Republican/DemoSH&$. They need better education before the can vote on issues. Its funny when you hear people say Obama is a great speaker. Do you know why he is? It is because of the TelePrompTer that Gw rarely used. I got the idea lets appoint a Karnac CZAR. Maybe TUNAMAN -or BONEMAN:fragend005:
ancrdave said it all!!! A two party system will never accomplish anything! One gets in office and then the other side goes against everything he/she wants to keep their “party” happy and get reelected. it’s just total gridlock, and to top it all off they are all batting for the same team ,and it isn’t the American people! Big Business etc etc… We are screwed! really! And about the rising cost of healthcare. Blame Obama all you want , but that all goes back to big business and them finding any excuse to bend us over! sad but true! thats why i will never argue over repubs and Dems. it just isn’t important! i get such a kick out of all of these FOX news watchers though! it’s like they are in a trance when they are watching that propoganda machine!! Just too damn funny!
maybe im mean and inpoliticly incorrect but i dont like seeing muslims period as far as im consernd they are the root of our problem no matter what they say they teach eachother to hate AMERICANS because we are better than they are we dont try to kill every body cause they dont believe the same CRAP that we do
obama started this health care shit big buissness is going to profit just like the wars u libs say bush started
Snowball, you are so correct as is Dave. Except for the Jesse Ventura comments. LOL But at least he isn’t afraid to say something that might pi$$ someone off. 9498Clay, I’m sorry to hear about the medicine price increase. Why has it increased? Is it because the insurance companies are paying less? I believe the insurance companies fought for that and it was a compromise that they got. I could be wrong but between big pharmaceutical companies, insurance companies, and health care companies, not much got accomplished with the health care system. Just imagine how bad those without insurance are. I may be joining them soon. As for your statement regarding Muslims and saying we don’t try to kill anyone that doesn’t believe as we do, have you ever heard of the “Crusades”? There are certain factions of the Muslim religion that are fundamental and believe that all non-believers should die. They are actually a small percentage of all Muslims so it’s unfair to characterize all Muslims the same. Just as it’s unfair to characterize all Christians as having the Pope as their leader and not believing in birth control.
As for the wars Bush started, the Iraq war had nothing to do with 9-11. For once, it appears the French were right and we should have taken a little more time with Hussein. Afghanistan is different and was definitely a safe haven for terrorists. As for Kennedy and the Bay of Pigs: it use to be called the Bay of Pigs fiasco and was a dark spot in the Kennedy term. His handling of the Cuban missile crisis was the best thing he ever did for this country and I believe that is what most of you are probably referring to.
BTW, throughout history it shows that most democracies only last about 200 years before they end. We are past 200 years old so we shouldn’t just assume that we will prevail. We need to work to bring our democracy back. I’m afraid the politicians have already, all but, eliminated it. Do away with the two party system and institute term limits to eliminate “career” politicians. Of course, if we do that, none of the politicians will have any experience.