Citrus had just 9 this weekend and i have seen Adale has had at little as one. Is the rules for this class hurting it or is it lack of interest? I have heard some drivers say rules, prize money, economy and others say why run when the same people win night after night. In 2009 Citrus was getting about 20-25 a night. Now we are lucky to get 10. I’m calling out any mini stock drivers! If you have a car and are not running currently i will make you this deal to run the rest of the year at Citrus. I will pay entry four up to 4 cars if you put my company logo on your car for the rest of the year. email me at ironfistforty@msn.com if your serious and we can talk.
I think they are just scared!
two words kevin… " DYING BREED" as of now, adale has made thier minis move up to mod’s… its cheaper to run a street stock… and theres more of them… 4 cyl bombers are taken over the mini-stock class… theres truth to tired of the same cars winning every week, but for the most part… the economy is killing people! its not the tracks fault… people just cannot afford to race… with prices going up… its just getting un affodrable…
example…
for us to run the mod-mini at citrus…
75 bucks for fuel to get there,
50 bucks to get in
5 bucks to park
48 bucks for race fuel…
not to mention food and drinks…
top 3 are usally the same cars…
4th thru 6th place your lucky to get 50 bucks… i will say were not in it for the money, but its just getting hard to justify that logic… and i know payout cannot be much better for mini’s… these tracks should really take this into consideration when raising prices and making you pay to park…
so for now, we’ll be racing close to home…
good luck with your venture!
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[QUOTE=rknhvc09;113321]two words kevin… " DYING BREED" as of now, adale has made thier minis move up to mod’s… its cheaper to run a street stock… and theres more of them… 4 cyl bombers are taken over the mini-stock class… theres truth to tired of the same cars winning every week, but for the most part… the economy is killing people! its not the tracks fault… people just cannot afford to race… with prices going up… its just getting un affodrable…
example…
for us to run the mod-mini at citrus…
75 bucks for fuel to get there,
50 bucks to get in
5 bucks to park
48 bucks for race fuel…
not to mention food and drinks…
top 3 are usally the same cars…
4th thru 6th place your lucky to get 50 bucks… i will say were not in it for the money, but its just getting hard to justify that logic… and i know payout cannot be much better for mini’s… these tracks should really take this into consideration when raising prices and making you pay to park…
so for now, we’ll be racing close to home…
good luck with your venture![/QUOTE]
in days past ,out of towners would get tow money. track owners would call you to come
Well…if they would change the name of current “Mini Stock” classes to “Mini (4-cylinder) Late Models”, then change the name of 4-cylinder, FWD “Bombers” back to “Mini STOCK”…then the “Mini Stock” fields (car counts) would be there…
Never been the same since the world ran out of Pintos…RIP Mini Stocks.
Good idea!
Its going to take more than a name change to get 4 cylinder racing back on its feet.
I got out of it because for the time and money it takes to build an antique Ford 2300 into a racing engine, I could buy a crate engine complete, race a faster car AND have money left over for tires all year.
Why not modernize the rules? Allow EFI, multi-cam, multi-valve and even stock 6 cylinder engines? Every class had to evolve sometime, but the engine rules here are stuck in the 80’s. How long has it been since you’ve seen a flat head V8 late model or an Offy midget? The mini stock cars are neat, but the engines are the killer IMHO.
The Showtime minis, inexpensive and stock 4 cylinder cars, look pretty successful. They are a great way to get new drivers hooked on our sport.
Boneman :ernaehrung004:put the facts out there as they are,but it’s not just the minis, all the classs are running rules that hold very old hard to get engines at there root. There are great “low cost” car parts that are EZ to get,but two things keep us from making good use of them,very old style rules and rednecks* don’t know how to play with computer tech that these now EZ to get cars have at there core.
I like Showtimes mini set up,it sees how it needs to be,yes it may not be tweeked to prefect yet,but I bet it willbe.
May take some time,but even latemodels ect. need to update badly,the same HP can be had with new design EFI OHC or OHcams ,engines that are stock and cheep,infact about one tenth or less than engines now{Chevy V8 is old tech]
*be inselted if need be,it may get use out of low car counts forever,no show=no oval racetrack at all.
$450 bucks for a set of tires that will last 6 races TOPS for a $100 to win isnt practical when you can build a Pure Stock that races on a tire that costs less and lasts twice as long. The cost has gotten way out of hand in the Mini Stock class. The Mod Mini class is totally out of hand, if you want to run up front you will need a Johnson Engine and a slew of other high dollar stuff. Both of these classes are dying out. You can build a competitive Sportsman for less than a Mod Mini and have a crate engine that will last all season and beyond.
I still like real street tires when it can be done,I guess that’s because back about 20 years ago,you could buy a set of Kelly Sringfilds 50sre. [there wideist one} for under $30 and run those all year[30 to 35 races} and only swop out the right side for the left. AND YES I WON RACES,a lot actuly in car counts of 30 to 40,than the track let greedy cook Bret sell race tires for the class and car count droped off fast,in a fairly shot time was the end of good shows and likely one of the start trigers for the end of Hialeah Speedway. IMHO
well we used to run on goodyears and they last half a year now someone had the bright idea to put mod mini’s on tires that 2 to 3 weeks so the tracks can make more money the cost of gas has went up as well as the cost of parts the only thing that has not changed in the last twelve years is the pay off still $300.00 to win. at fascar tracks even less. Desoto was paying $800 one year back in o8 i think had alot of great cars but there back to $300. It is suprising to me that back in the 80’s they paid more to race then they do now and it cost less for a car, fuel tires, entry and the grand stands charged less to get in so were all the money going since thracks charge way more and pay less?
showtime rules are fine but they should not be given 2000cc weight brakes they put out as much hp as a 2300 and get 300lb weight brake what a joke.
one wieght for all
Mini stocks
I do think going back to a street tire would help. As far as the other rules i think open it up. Let us build and ticker with what we got. Set weight by horsepower and leave it at that. Use any stock part and let us make changes as long as we stay with the stock parts. Why penalize fwd 50lbs for having a locked diff. Make the rules few but IN FORCE THEM!!!
showtime rules are fine but they should not be given 2000cc weight brakes they put out as much hp as a 2300 and get 300lb weight brake what a joke.
one wieght for all
the 2300’s domake more power and the rules at most tracks have always been pound per cc. (some tracks had 2100 an min weight) and Tbh if i was running a pinto id gladly have my car weigh 2300ish rather than 2100. They need the weight in the rear.