Future of modifieds

FLORIDA STOCK CAR RACING KARNAC's FLORIDA STOCK CAR RACING
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I use to have a lot of respect for him, but sure seems like he is screwing up the rules for the modifieds. Every place I know of is 78" width and most all tracks are stock front clips, either he got bought or he owns a outlawed modified like Andersons

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Benny

I really like the picture

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Idk

But he is a respected authority in tech for Florida. So burying his head in the sand in this matter is wrong in my opinion.

All the tracks need to get on the same page…period.

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lol

LOL…:huh:

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Howe

Howe chassis offers either impala or chevelle Stock front clips on their new modifieds. Didn’t see fab clip

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I lob em out there, sometimes they hit sometimes they don’t.:grinser010:

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“The IMCA modified was created for a man with a budget to race a real racecar.”–OWM53

Yes. And in 1990 the cars looked about the same, the competition was as close, there were more cars, and everybody spent less money.

Uniform chassis rules would be a step in the right direction.

It is certainly up to the tracks to determine their own rules, of course, but it seems like it would be to their benefit to come up with a single set of chassis and shock rules.

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Here ya go

https://www.imca.com/rules/modified

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Just for reference, here is a part of the 2016 IMCA modified rulebook:

“FRAME: 1964 or newer OEM perimeter American rear-wheel drive passenger car frame only. No sport car frames…
Minimum wheelbase 108 inches, maximum 112 inches, both sides. Maximum overall width shall not exceed 78 inches from outside of tire to
outside of tire. No part of frame can be lower than four inches from ground except front crossmember.”

As I recall, and as I think I see above, any frame (short of a corvette) is legal.

Back in the day I can remember Ford frames with struts for lowers. Of course, whatever “the hot lick” is will probably become near universal, but that is okay too–competitor’s choice.

Width is listed at 78".

Regarding narrowing front track width, is that not fairly easy with different A frames and/or different offset wheels?

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Good info here

https://www.imca.com/rules/modified/

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Apparently

I am doing something wrong getting the direct link posted…IDK

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Modified chassis

I have been looking on the internet for new mod chassis and the majority that i find are all stock clips. I have pictures of them all in PDF but cant seem to attach here.

  1. Howe
  2. Port city
  3. Left hander
  4. Ellis
  5. Wenteg
  6. Viking…dirt
  7. And i believe Hamke
  8. Pletchers were all stock
  9. Copes were all stock…sounds like he may be keeping up with the jones’s

All are either Chevelle or impala metric…??? Did Florida create the Fab clip being allowed in our class?

I know its a ton of work to modify a front stub because i have been doing it but nowhere have i seen the fab clip offered or legal.

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Project stock clip

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Project stock clip

But it can be done and is all over the country

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Project stock clip

still going

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Doug,

A couple of questions:

Why are the outer sides of the frame removed where the springs pass though?

So that the springs can be quickly changed?

Will they later be “plated”? If not, is the frame not compromised, strength wise? I realize it is common practice, though.

Also, the A Frame mounts–while the whole deal is beefy, will you be adding gussets there perpendicular to the mounts back to the frame for strength?

I also realize that weight is the enemy…

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NSS has the wider track so the ford lowers can be used with the WIDER offset rules. If you go to the other tracks you just change the lowers back to GM and you use the same wheels to get back to 78". It is not perfect but it works for certain teams to have the advantage.

THERE IS NO GOOD REASON TO HAVE A WIDER TRACK AT NSS.

I SEE THE TRACK HAS NOT ANSWERED THE QUESTION ABOUT ALLOWING THE WIDER IMPALA FAB CLIP CARS AT SPEED WEEKS

IS DICKY PULLING THE STRINGS ON THESE RULES???

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Looking good Doug! I’m glad that clip worked for you and it was able to save you a lot of headaches. I just finished sanding and painting so I should be putting the suspension on soon so I can start running wires and brake lines.

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Mark

Cool Mark…Thanks again

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Old School

[QUOTE=OldSchool+;167585]Doug,

A couple of questions:

Why are the outer sides of the frame removed where the springs pass though?

So that the springs can be quickly changed?

Will they later be “plated”? If not, is the frame not compromised, strength wise? I realize it is common practice, though.

Also, the A Frame mounts–while the whole deal is beefy, will you be adding gussets there perpendicular to the mounts back to the frame for strength?

I also realize that weight is the enemy…[/QUOTE]

Shock clearance and ease of spring removal…and no gussets on lower. Keep in mind im no professional. But i watched a video once.